{"id":9050,"date":"2017-04-15T19:00:25","date_gmt":"2017-04-15T17:00:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.filef.net\/2017\/04\/15\/8317-nestor-kircjner-un-tipo-increible-intervista-a-hebe-de-bonafini\/"},"modified":"2017-04-15T19:00:25","modified_gmt":"2017-04-15T17:00:25","slug":"8317-nestor-kircjner-un-tipo-increible-intervista-a-hebe-de-bonafini","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/emigrazione-notizie.org\/?p=9050","title":{"rendered":"8317 Nestor Kircjner, \u201cUn tipo incre\u00edble\u201d. Intervista a Hebe de Bonafini"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\t\t\t\t20101029 10:00:00 redazione-IT<\/p>\n<p>Por Alejandra Dandan<\/p>\n<p>Hebe de Bonafini acaba de decir a sus compa\u00f1eros que cambien la tapa de la revista de la Asociaci\u00f3n de las Madres de Plaza de Mayo. Que esta vez en la tapa va N\u00e9stor Kirchner, con una impresi\u00f3n que dice: \u201cEstar\u00e1s para siempre en la Plaza de Mayo\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013\u00bfC\u00f3mo fue ayer?<\/p>\n<p>\u2013Pienso que a veces en estos momentos todo lo que uno dice es pelotudo, porque uno habla y habla y habla. Que es muy injusto, que es insoportable, que nadie puede entender el dolor del otro y desde donde lo siente, que era muy necesario, que era un tipo que ten\u00eda un humor incre\u00edble. Que nos demostr\u00f3 cosas inesperadas.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013\u00bfCu\u00e1les fueron?<\/p>\n<p>\u2013Lo repiti\u00f3 todo el mundo, pero bajar el cartel de los milicos de un saque y dar esa orden con tanta fuerza: \u201c\u00a1Ret\u00edrelo!\u201d. Entregar la ESMA, ese espacio tan maravilloso que compartimos las Madres, anular las leyes de obediencia debida y punto final. O sea, siempre nos dio mucho m\u00e1s de lo que esper\u00e1bamos, y aquella frase maravillosa donde dijo que \u00e9ramos sus madres y que nuestros hijos eran sus compa\u00f1eros, para m\u00ed fue lo m\u00e1s comprometido que ning\u00fan presidente se me ocurriera que pudiera decir. La fuerza con el tema de Bush, la inteligencia del plan econ\u00f3mico.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013\u00bfRecuerda alg\u00fan encuentro simb\u00f3lico con \u00e9l?<\/p>\n<p>\u2013Un momento para m\u00ed incre\u00edble resulta que fue cuando \u00e9l gana las elecciones. Mi mam\u00e1, que me conoc\u00eda bastante como toda madre, me dice: \u201cHija m\u00eda, tenele paciencia que este hombre tiene pasta\u201d, y ten\u00eda 90 a\u00f1os. Yo no pod\u00eda creer. Despu\u00e9s, la otra parte fue cuando le ped\u00ed la entrevista para decirle que me hab\u00eda equivocado: cre\u00ed que era lo mismo que Duhalde, y le ped\u00ed perd\u00f3n, delante de los periodistas, y desde ah\u00ed empezamos a entendernos. Le di una lista de tipos que no quer\u00edamos las Madres. Le dije: \u201cPonelos en una canastita, y de a poco los sac\u00e1s\u201d. El se mataba de risa. Despu\u00e9s hubo cosas que me asombraron: llamaron a mi mam\u00e1 de la Casa de Gobierno y era N\u00e9stor para felicitarla por el cumplea\u00f1os. O la primera Navidad que fue presidente: llam\u00f3 para preguntarme si estaba sola o con qui\u00e9n la pasaba. Cosas que no hace para publicitarlas sino porque lo siente. Me trataba como de la familia, yo siempre hago cosas de barricada.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013\u00bfSe enoj\u00f3 con \u00e9l alguna vez?<\/p>\n<p>\u2013Nunca. \u00bfNo viste que un d\u00eda Cristina me dijo: \u201cSegu\u00ed gritando vos, que sos la que ten\u00e9s m\u00e1s derecho porque te lo has ganado\u201d? A \u00e9l le regalamos el pa\u00f1uelo cuando reci\u00e9n asumi\u00f3, y yo le di una carta como un deseo: dec\u00eda que yo aspiraba a que alguna vez un hijo m\u00edo cruce la Plaza de Mayo y ocupe la presidencia, sent\u00eda que hab\u00eda llegado el momento con \u00e9l. La carta es un poco m\u00e1s larga, y se la di. Y esas cosas ten\u00edamos en com\u00fan. Lo voy a extra\u00f1ar tanto, tanto&#8230; Todo el pueblo lo necesita mucho, y necesitamos mostrarle a Cristina que las plazas se van a llenar, y lo mejor que podemos hacer es estar en la plaza mucho tiempo y mostrarle a Cristina que todos los que estamos ah\u00ed la vamos a acompa\u00f1ar y vamos a estar.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013\u00bfC\u00f3mo ve lo que viene?<\/p>\n<p>\u2013Mir\u00e1, cuando nos llevaron los hijos no todas reaccionamos igual. Y salimos a pelear, a pelear, a pelear, pero lo que pasa es que en esos momentos ten\u00edas un tiempo. Ahora no tenemos un tiempo: tiene que ser hoy la pelea. Tenemos que agarrar un mont\u00f3n de fuerza porque son demasiadas cosas que nos han pasado; vos pens\u00e1 que yo perd\u00ed toda la familia en cinco a\u00f1os. Le dec\u00eda a mi hija: \u201cNo puedo m\u00e1s, no aguanto m\u00e1s\u201d. Y ella, me dec\u00eda: \u201cS\u00ed, mami, vas a ver que lo vamos a hacer\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Y Hebe llora. Y sigue: \u201cLo vas a poder hacer y eso me pasa, viste. Eso me pasa y eso nos pasa a muchos por lo injusto o por lo terrible, nos queda mucho, tenemos que llenar las plazas y no darlo por muerto sino sentirlo vivo y decirle a Cristina que estamos, para qu\u00e9 nos necesit\u00e1s. Tenemos que ser soldados de ella. Y a Cristina la necesitan los hijos, y el pa\u00eds, y el pueblo: a nosotras, las madres mujeres, nos toca trabajar de fuertes y creo que le toc\u00f3 eso a ella en este momento\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;\t\t<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<div class=\"mh-excerpt\"><p>20101029 10:00:00 redazione-IT Por Alejandra Dandan Hebe de Bonafini acaba de decir a sus compa\u00f1eros que cambien la tapa de la revista de la Asociaci\u00f3n <a class=\"mh-excerpt-more\" href=\"https:\/\/emigrazione-notizie.org\/?p=9050\" title=\"8317 Nestor Kircjner, \u201cUn tipo incre\u00edble\u201d. 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